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Living in China With Expired Visas

Caught by China CopHaving an expired visa in China is a no-no. If you live in China, you are probably already pretty aware of this. Let’s take a look at what you need a visa to do in China:

What You Need a Visa to do in China

  • Stay in a guest house / motel / hotel (the more expensive the place, the more likely they will check for a valid visa - mid range hotels and up always check, guest houses in tourist cities rarely if ever check)
  • Enter or leave China (kind of obvious one, no?)
  • Rent an apartment
  • Survive random spot inspections at your place of abode or (sometimes) on the street

So basically, unless you are adept at running from China’s police and living on the streets / in the wild, it’s a pretty good idea to keep your visa status up to date in China.

If you want to try and live without one, let me know how it turns out for you.

What the Chinese Government Can do to You if Your Visa is Expired

Legally, the Chinese government can fine you 500 RMB a day up to a maximum 5000 RMB, and can throw you in jail for up to 30 days if you get caught with an expired visa.

But you should be more worried about what could happen - like locking you up and throwing away the keys. Not that it’s likely, but it’s hard to trust the cops anywhere in the world, especially when you are a foreigner. So…

Be safe and keep your China visa up to date

This warning inspired by an article in today’s Wall Street Journal, which says that police are cracking down on undocumented / expired visa carrying foreigners in Beijing in preparation for the Olympics.


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  1. 1|Vincent Cheung says:

    China’s regulations are very spasmodic. So there are always ways of getting away with breaking the laws in China. A lot of foreigner in Shanghai work and live illegal, bunch of unregistered companies start business and hire people without pay taxes and insurance.

  2. 2|Jay. says:

    i am in china, with my visa expired and living the wild life, now i am trying to back to my country but… i dont know how. i’ve been here 8 months and my visa expired 7 months ago…
    so also i got a lot of troubles with the psb and police local but maybe i am a lucky guy because i always ran away without show my passport to they.
    any suggestion.. of course i dont have the money for pay the fine (5000rmb i think so).. wish me luck.. see you. Jay.

  3. 3|Jeremy says:

    Hi Jay,

    I don’t know what to tell you. If you have enough money to buy a plane ticket home, you might be able to get through customs with just a warning. But that’s a big maybe.

    You probably need to save up or get access to enough money to both pay the fine and fly back home. Fortunately, it seems like the maximum fine is capped. So if you can keep avoiding the police and save up some money, you could get home okay.

    Good luck.

  4. 4|Jay says:

    now i am in the border line, i tryed to across by the mountains but there are a lot of security. after that i tryed to go out the country but first i need to paid the fine 5000 rmb and i can go…. but i dont have the money so, the police told me that i go back when i get the money, they dont care nothing and leave me go, so easy, so… maybe i need to find a job. crazy laws… i am sorry for my write but i speak spanish not english. i hope you can understand. thanks for the suggestion.. chao

  5. 5|jo says:

    i submitted my passport for visa renewal before it expired. the agent confirm that he can renew the visa without problem and ask for huge amount of money. but 3 months later i still don’t have my passport back with the new visa. i don’t want to stay without visa so i want to go back to my home country but cannot leave without my passport. what do you think should i do?

  6. 6|Jeremy says:

    Hi Jo - That’s a hard situation to be in. Sounds like you got ripped off. You need to file a police report for a lost passport with your local police office, take that along with proof of identity (birth certificate and any other IDs you can get sent from home) to your local consulate to apply for a new passport.

    Anyone who takes money upfront for visa services is doubly likely to rip you off, unless you are turning it in at a large visa services office that’s an obvious company.

  7. 7|Kim says:

    HI ,

    My multiple entry china visa for 6 months , expired yesterday 12nd march , and today is 13 already

    how can i proceed ? just past 1 day ,

    but i need to stay in china for more couple of days maximum more 2 or 3 days ,

    it was my mistake accidentaly … i just forgot …

    i have been applied before for one multiple entry and i dont have any restriction in china

    can u help me ?

  8. 8|jo says:

    i got my passport back but without the new visa. i want to go back to my home country with an expired visa. what do you suggest should i do? can i go straight to the airport with ticket and expired visa and pay the penalty at customs at the airport?

  9. 9|Jeremy says:

    Jo and Kim - That seems like it would be the best option - pay the penalty at customs. It doesn’t seem like you can renew an f visa from within China if your visa is already expired. Good luck.

  10. 10|janz says:

    hi there!

    is it possible to renew my L visa even if I renewd it already for 3 times? can i change it to F visa? by the way, i’m holding a philippine passport.
    i want to stay longer here but just worried about the visa systema nd the freaking fees.
    i hope you can help me.

  11. 11|Jeremy says:

    Hi Janz,

    How did you renew your L visa 3 times? Do you mean you renewed it 3 times without leaving China? That’s quite an accomplishment. Of course, I don’t know the regulations for philippine passports.
    Changing it to an F visa may be possible in Hong Kong - changing it in China usually requires your last visa to have been obtained outside of the country, and with the Olympics coming up it looks like the situation has taken a huge turn for the worse.

    Visa processors everywhere have been telling me they can’t help me. Come June I’ll find out better, but the situation doesn’t look good.

  12. 12|tony says:

    hello,
    i lost my passport and had to report to the police .a police report was issued to me and now i have to thinks of going back to my country.i intend buying an airticket then summit my id,police report ,and plane ticket to the police burea.your advice is highly needed.

  13. 13|Jeremy says:

    Hi Tony,

    You need to go to your consulate within China and apply for a new passport - in order to do so you’ll need sufficient proof of your identity - probably a birth certificate and any other forms of id you can get your hand on. Your consulate can let you know what you will need, they generally require a police report for your stolen passport if it was stolen. That’s all I can tell you, good luck.

  14. 14|jo says:

    hi everyone! just to update and it might be of help. i bought a ticket and went straight to airport but was not allowed to exit customs at the airport. i was advised that only expired visa of less than 2 months can pay penalty at the airport customs office and leave. so i had to go to immigration office and arrange for an exit visa. so if your visa is expired for more than 2 months, don’t go straight to the airport.

  15. 15|Jeremy says:

    Jo - thanks for the update. Please let us know what kind of procedure and fee you had to pay at the immigration office if you get a chance (and what nationality you are)

  16. 16|AJ woo says:

    my visa has been expired now since september 2006 as my passport was taken by a chinese visa agent promising to get me an F visa. this happened after i was given a 10 days visa to leave the country ..he assured me he could do it and then disappeared with my money and passport..i got a police report and then later had a new passport. I~m a holder of a cameroonian passport. since then i have never been able to have a visa. 2 expired 10 days visa in a roll….please if you have ever seen such a situation, help me out..how can i go about this . i really want to leave this country , they can`t allow me go, even with the 500 penalty i took to the psb … they sent my passport back to me. this was done through my Guanxi.

  17. 17|Neffy says:

    I have a resident permit visa that I received through my former employer(it expires in July). I no longer work for that employer and I never gave them my passport to cancel it. Im aware that my employer could still have cancelled it even without having it in its posession. So right now I have no ideal whether or not my visa is valid. Id like to return to the U.S in May and I dont want to have any problems. Any suggestions on what I should do?

  18. 18|Jeremy says:

    AJ - I’m sorry I don’t know how to help you. Maybe someone else could give some advice. Good luck.

  19. 19|Jeremy says:

    Hi Neffy - You could contact your employer before you head out to check if they canceled it, just to make sure you don’t get stuck in immigration and unable to get on your flight.

    The other option is to make sure you have 5000 RMB on hand just in case…

  20. 20|Daniels says:

    my visa expired on the 8th of April and i have been teaching in a school.Now the police are after me and i want to go home before getting caught. What do you think i should do.

  21. 21|Daniels says:

    can it be possible for me to go home,my visa expired on the 9th of April and i have been teaching in a school,but the police are asking for my passport now.what can i do to go home

  22. 22|Jeremy says:

    You’re going to have to cough up the fine before you can go home - I’m sorry I can’t really help you with your situation. You might be able to get a 30 day exit visa by going to immigration after you pay the 5000 RMB fine.

  23. 23|John says:

    I lost my passport in the process of extending visa on it.First it expired and thereafter it happen that I had they have been taken to another country whithout my awareness.Now am in China without passport leave alone valid visaand I haven’t done any job it wss my first time in China and my first visa.
    What is espected of me since now I can’t manage even yto pay leave alone airticket but neither fine nor visa extension coz even what I had was taken together with my passport while making visa extension?

  24. 24|Jeremy says:

    John - Umm… I don’t know what to tell you. You need to get a police report from a Chinese police office that says your passport was stolen, apply for a new passport at your country’s consulate with the appropriate documents (birth certificate, other forms of id, etc), and then apply for an exit visa to leave China.

    Good luck.

  25. 25|karen says:

    my sister her friend and my cousin have an expired visa they are staying here for almost 2mo.s in china without visa they want to go home but they are scared of what the government will do to them can someone ask me what will happen if they brought themsleves to the imigration and my sister is only 18yrs old thats why im so very worried about the consequences.are they safe if they surrendered

  26. 26|Jeremy says:

    Hi Karen,

    My guess is if they have the 5000 RMB fee (each) and means to afford passage out of China back home that they will be okay.

    If not, try and help them get that.

  27. 27|karen says:

    do you mean if they have money they can go back home where they must go immigration or in our embassy.are they be in jailed if they surrender themselves,and if they surrender on the immgration are they safe there inside.tnx for answering

  28. 28|jo says:

    hi karen,

    let me share my cousins experience with you. she had a 4 months expired visa and we went straight to the airport with the intension of paying the rmb5000 fine at the airport immigration. but she was not allowed to leave, she need to get an exit visa first. this is how things work:

    1/ first went to the foreign affairs office and told them that she has an expired visa and wants to go home. but of course immigration would ask what you do in china, do you know that your visa is expired and why did you let it get expired. you have to answer this questions but make sure that you answer them safely. meaning don’t get caught that you are working in shanghai without working visa. then they will make a copy of ur passport and visa, and the pink slip (temporary residence slip). they will get ur contact details.
    2/ you wait for the call from the police and you present yourself. there you got to be ask the same question then they will ask you to sign a paper. then you will be given a slip of paper to present to the bank for payment and paper to present to foreign affairs when you apply for exit visa.
    3/ you go to the bank to pay the fine of rmb5000.
    4/ then go to foreign affairs office to apply for exit visa. you’ll be given 10 days to exit.

    i don’t know if it’s the same with all expired visa but this how my cousin got out of china last month.

    good luck to your friends.

  29. 29|Ken says:

    dear as i was going to hkg and that time hkg security don’t allow me to enter and that same day my visa get expired and i gave my passport to one agent to make for 1 year but now already 3 month and can’t get passport as well so i am with him and he is doing something and he is helping me but he don’t know also what to do as the person whom he give passport is run away so can u please suggest what to do and i don’t have much money either..

  30. 30|karen says:

    but the big problem is they dont have the temporary residence because they was fooled by a chinese agent hu promised them to make their visa and keep their passport for almost 1 month..

  31. 31|jo says:

    then they have to go to local police station and apply for temporary residence permit. and they tell the police that they need this to apply an exit visa. but 1st they go to foreign affairs, then local police station. if you have chinese friend who can help you out talking with the police and explaining things, better ask for assistance.

  32. 32|karen says:

    they dont have house to live in they just skip en skip to other house.how bout if he just surrender to the airport and go to the imigration there bcoz he wants to surrender do you think its good because we’re tottaly indespair on how he can go back home.

  33. 33|karen says:

    we already go immigration psb here in beijing but they want to see a temporary residenec which is they really dont have

  34. 34|Moe says:

    Well my visa just expired the 13 of JUNE, I tought it was the 18. lol my error. I wanna stay here I don’t wanna go anywhere, but I want a valid visa. Last time I went to hongkong and there were bunch of people making visa, I paid one 80US and he took my password and came back after 1 hour with a 3 month visa. Now I will go do the same again, but will I be able to get to hong kong to do the same? I have no intention of leaving, just renewing my visa.

    Thanks For The Help

  35. 35|Jeremy says:

    Um… getting a visa in Hong Kong has become extremely difficult, if not impossible. Good luck, but don’t plan on definitely being able to get the visa. Have a backup plan, since if they reject you you’ll be stuck in Hong Kong. Considering the time constraints you face, though, you’ll probably just need to wing it.

  36. 36|Moe says:

    Wing it? So what do you mean I have to do?

  37. 37|Jeremy says:

    I can’t give a full rundown of the issues, so check out this page which has a lot more info:

    Update on China Visa Situation

  38. 38|meeh says:

    Anyone can help me….I gave birth in China and I don’t know what to do. I am an asian and alone here. I am really in so much trouble for my visa got expired the day I gave birth. The doctor told me she can extend my visa but needs passport of my husband..but am not married and I am alone here. I runaway from my country and tried to start a life here because I am not fully aware of the visa policies here. Now that my baby is 8mos old I want to know how I can get a passport for my baby or is it possible that my baby and I can stay here for good.

  39. 39|meeh says:

    its 10 months expired already….what should I do? I want to stay here and dont want to go back home…

  40. 40|Jeremy says:

    Hi Meeh,

    I have no idea about what you need to do - perhaps others have some information that could help you?

  41. 41|Moe says:

    Hi meeh, after a long day of talking to fifty hundred tousand people today for my own case of visa that expired the 13 of june..I am canadian by the way. Well since me it’s only a few day I will just need to pay a fine. But the thing is a gamble when I will cross back to Hong Kong they could refuse me back an entry here for X reason. So I contacted my embassy. I will go pay a fine here localy in Shenzhen and they will extend my visa for a few day’s giving me enought time to cross back to hong kong, go husle a visa down there (like 50-60us) and come back to beautifl CHINA. Well the immigration law is really hard for people that smugled in. I don’t wanna scare you or antyhing but if you go report yourself they will arrest you and lock you down. You it’s not a couple day’s its month so you were aware of what your were doing smugleling in here. My best advice is to find you civil lawyer, or an immigration concelor…explain them the thing…play it as a victim…but it’s hard your kid have 8 month now…give me your background. How you got here. How long was your first visa. Give me more detail. Tomorow when I go meet them I will ask them thoose question. China is lovely but they are like any country, you don’t respect the rules or either law you get punished. And since now olympics are coming they are really really hard of the visa status.

    Sincerely Yours Moe

  42. 42|meeh says:

    Hello moe,

    I’ve been invited by my uncle to stay here. I got L visa thrice and exited in Macau and again managed to extend L visa twice….I wanted to go home but it was the doctors doesnt want me to go back home….so the a day before my visa wil expire I went to doctor to give me a certificate that I can travel….but the doctor refused and instead gave me certificate to extend my visa…my friend took my passport to shanghai but shanghai embassy said we must take it to immigration near my hospital….but when my friend came back next day I had bleeding so i didnt managed to process my documents…after 3 days immigration called me and told me its has no problem i just need to submit them the birth certificate of my baby but i had problem with hospital because they want the father’s passport. The father wasn’t here with me and explained them already but language problem is really the main problem that caused me trouble….i do have a close friend with me and they taught it was my husband but of course he aint my husband so how will he stand as the father of my child….

    and i am a ceasarian and my baby stayed in incubator for 3 weeks…. baby was premature…doctor dont want me to travel because my pregnancy is very dangerous….

    I didnt work here so i dont think i abide their law it was them who doesnt want me to go….so what should I do….I am living with my baby and I am taking care of him so i think they wont think that i worked here at all…I still have enough savings for us to survive …

    the reason why I want to fix this is that if ever given a chance to work here of course I would love to work legally……

    so i want to know if its possible my baby can help me to be citizen here…..

    thanks for the help…

  43. 43|meeh says:

    my uncle wasn’t here anymore…after 2 months staying here he got transfered so I just thought of finishing my visa which is still a month that time and planning to go back home….and that whats happened….

  44. 44|meeh says:

    Residence Visa

    (D-visa)

    Requirements:

    1. One completely filled out Visa Application Form for the P.R. China (Q-2007) .no item should be empty or alterd.

    2. One recently taken 2X2 in. photo showing entire face and without a hat on. Please affix the photo to the application form.

    3. Original passport with at least 2 blank visa pages and valid for at least 6 months beyond the date of application.

    4. A permanent residence confirmation form is required. You or your designated relatives in China may obtain this form from the exit-and-entry department of the municipal or county public security bureau where you intend to reside.

    5. An applicant born in China who is applying for a Chinese visa with his or her new foreign passport is required to submit his or her Chinese passport or last foreign passport.

    6. A child of Chinese descent and born in a foreign country who applies for a Chinese visa for the first time is required to submit his or her Birth Certificate and foreign passport or foreign permanent resident permit (e.g. Green Card) of one of his or her parents.

    7.Non-US passport bearers shall provide documents that entitle them to reside or work for an extended period of time in the US.

    8. former chinese visas ( if you have any ).

    9. other files consuls request .

  45. 45|meeh says:

    moe email me….thanks!

    eve.adams13@yahoo.com

  46. 46|Moe says:

    Well guess where I am in Hong Kong he he. I made it there with no fine or anything. My visa expired the 13 of June; it took me 6 days to figure out how the hell I will be able to renew it. Let me share with you my experience so you can help our fellow Canadian. Firstable they asked me to go to the bureau of exit of Shenzhen…I went there took a number waited a few hours then someone brought me in a room and told me you have to go to the police station or somewhere like that (like a big Chinese office for visa). An inspector came and saw me, he told me like a nice man you can go to Hong Kong directly they will just give you a warning and you can exit china. I went to Hong Kong (no hotel reservation, no return flight, nothing…like a soldier he he) I filled the exit card, no flight number nothing…just my name my date of birth and my passport number. Then the agent told me wait. Another agent came; they brought me unto a room. I waited 15 minute, a nice lady comes with a paper telling me to sign it’s just a warning and say you are now free to go to Hong Kong and apply for a new visa. I also asked her about the RED stamp the famous 10 day’s exit stamp that they give you in Shenzhen to exit china (it’s a flag, when you have that stamp u cannot re apply for a visa within china). So avoid telling people to go there that is my best suggestion. That is only good for people who there visa was expired less then 10 day’s I also find a nice lady that will charge me 750 us Hong Kong dollar to fix my visa. I am currently in a hotel tomorrow I will meet here; I have to wait till Monday since there is no more SAME DAY VISA. I will keep you posted over the rest!

  47. 47|Moe says:

    meeh, email me I be more then happy to try to help you personaly when I get back to Shenzhe, I have a translator with me 24/7. So I can go with you around and get this whole mess fixed. Well I will try…I am ain’t superman, but I know how to work around it. Well I guess let’s see if Monday I will be back in shenzhen hehe.

  48. 48|Moe says:

    Please a moderator (remove my email publicly) I never tought I will receive so many inquiry lol

  49. 49|Joe says:

    Hi everybody…i’m Joe living in china shenzhen to be precise…..can i exit china with a 14 day expired visa?…….i don’t have any money to pay as a penalty to the customs…..i have my ticke ready to depart china…..i need your advice?…….

  50. 50|Moe says:

    Joe tell me what passport you have?

  51. 51|jack says:

    what should i do i,ve lost my passport but my visa expired october 7 2008 i want to go back to my country what are the best thing to do?

  52. 52|Jeremy says:

    Jack,

    Hmm… you need to file a report with your local PSB / 派出所. If you have a photocopy of the visa and passport, that would be the most helpful. Then you’ll need to go to your consulate to apply for a new passport, likely having to bring two major forms of ID plus the report for the stolen passport (actually, you may just need the stolen passport report to get the exit visa from China, not to apply for your passport… but either way you will eventually need it).

    Good luck. Maybe someone else can provide better advice.

  53. 53|Moe says:

    What passport are holding Jack? And Btw Moe is back In China with a 30 day’s visa 2 entry….My hat off to my own self lol

    Thanks Moe

  54. 54|ESK says:

    Hi,ESK
    i have a resident permit and it expired on June 19th,2008.I am prepared to go home to Africa.i wanted to know where to go first since i will be getting myself a ticket home.Where should i go at the airport.Please advice me on this and how i should go about it.I am also aware i will be paying penalty.

  55. 55|Rut says:

    Wow, I thought I am the only one who will try to stay with an expired visa here! hehe
    I am in Beijing and my L visa expires the 7 August 2008. Yeah, a day before the great Olympics. Anyone in same situation want to meet for a drink in Dongsi Hutong and talk about this and maybe find together a solution?.
    adventurefun@live.de Rut from Barcelona

  56. 56|Arthur Tsaturyan says:

    I have been married to a Chinese citizen for 3 years, i have been legally employes for 3 years as an English teacher. The PSB refused to renew or issue any visa or extension to me. My residence permit expires on Sept 15, I have new employment contract and expecting for a baby soon. employer says NO PROBLEM, wait, Visa office refused my visa today. The clock is ticking, I don’t want to break the law, i have two weeks to go, leave or wait and trust. What would you do if you were in my place?

  57. 57|Jeremy says:

    Hi Arthur - your employer should be handling this, it seems - you say the PSB won’t give you any visa, even a visiting family L visa? If they can’t help you with this, you could consider as a last resort going to your wife’s hukou location and applying for a family L visa there, but of course you can’t work with such a visa.

    Not sure what to tell you, if your employer is on the up and up and you meet the basic requirements you shouldn’t have a problem getting a visa.

  58. 58|soja says:

    hi guys i need your help i have expired visa and i want to go home but am afraid the police will arrest me,if not and i pay the 5000 and they give me 10days to exit,can i use the same passport to go and apply for another visa in home country to come to china? or if they use the red stanp on my passport i cant use? need help

  59. 59|soja says:

    some one now agent who renew expire visa? help

  60. 60|AJ says:

    hey soja, can you let me know which country `s passport you are holding?

  61. 61|Arthur Tsaturyan says:

    Hi Jeremy,
    Thanks for your advice but the weird thing is that at the PSB they told me that they do not issue any visa of any kind to anyone! They have just stopped processing visa applications for an indefinite period.
    The office, which used to be rather crowded, is open one or two hours a day and there is a sign on the window which says that owing to some computer problems they have stopped visa application procedures! No other explanation. What can I do? Please help me!
    Even L visa should be processed by the same office.

  62. 62|soja says:

    AJ AM FROM GHANA

  63. 63|Jeremy says:

    Hi Arthur - It seems like your only options are:

    1) Try your wife’s hometown PSB (where she has her Hukou) to apply for a family L visa
    2) Get ready to leave China

    I can’t give you very good advice on this - but can say the place you’re most likely to be able to get a visa to China is from your own country, but that is very expensive. Good luck.

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  65. 65|TONY says:

    My visa was approved at yangzhou PSB,but at gulin PSB it was turned down by an officer without looking at the passport simply because am a nigeria.What can l do?l have 3chinese visas on my passport.An am representing an america firm that want to set up in china here.Am tired of dorging for the police.

  66. 66|rani says:

    i have applyed for visa in hong kong but they rejected my passport with a red stamp in the last page of my passport can someone tell me what’s mean this red stamp,one more thing i have never expired my visa in china and never have a problem there with police and i was living there more than four years.

  67. 67|dez says:

    Hi my RP expirded for 15 days so i go to the visa office pay a 2500 rmb fine (in beijing) but they did nothing to my passport no stamp no paper stuck in it nothing has any one else been through this prosses before how does it work (step by step?) i want to go to hong kong for a L visa.

  68. 68|ricky says:

    i m in china from last one and half years without a visa ,now i want to go back to my country. but i don’t know how?please anybody tell me what i can do now ?plzzzzzzzzzzzz tell me something

  69. 69|raquel says:

    my visa expired 11 days ago, but i didin’t notice until yesterday. i went to the pbs, but they insisted on me paying 5000 yuan and it’s way outta what i could afford. is there any way i could get outta being fined?

  70. 70|sam says:

    my visa has been expired now since september 2006 as my passport was taken by a chinese visa agent promising to get me an F visa. this happened after i was given a 10 days visa to leave the country ..he assured me he could do it and then disappeared with my money and passport..i got a police report and then later had a new passport. I~m a holder of a cameroonian passport. since then i have never been able to have a visa. 2 expired 10 days visa in a roll….please if you have ever seen such a situation, help me out..how can i go about this . i really want to leave this country , they can`t allow me go, even with the 500 penalty i took to the psb … they sent my passport back to me
    pls contact me if you can help big2facesam@yahoo.com

  71. 71|nikki says:

    hello! i am in guangzhou china. i lost my passport since 2007. i have the police report with me but i didnt i didnt report it to philippine consulate. since then, because i dont have money that time i just keep silent and be moving without papers. but now i really want to fix my papers. is it possible to fix it here in china? i heard that consulate in guangzhou are not issueing new passport,.. so which city i can ask help for it? and thet say that if i want to surrender, even though i pay the 5000 they will still put me in jail. im very afraid. please, somebody give me advice. i really want to fix everything. thanks.

  72. 72|Daniel says:

    Hi guys, I live in Shanghai non-stop since 2001 and I came in with a business visa, which I kept extending until 2007. I got married to a chinese girl in 2006 then the company closed in 2007 and I stayed until now without renewing visa. I thought it was ok since I married a chinese girl and I was wrong.. I got a high paid job opportunity but they are waiting for me to get regular with the visa/residence permit. I hope the authorities will go easy on me considering I have wife and a baby now.. Being here since 2001 nonstop is something considerable and I hope they will not kick me out of china :(

  73. 73|Daniel says:

    I forgot to add, I never had in my mind living in the shadow or hiding from the police or anything, I was quite misslead by some people who were probably trying to hurt me, they told me “it’s no problem, once you have marriage certificate that exempt you from renwwing visa”.. I was a fool to believe them without even checking. But the thing is, since the company closed I just worked temporary jobs for my father and my passport was never checked for visa, I even used it in public offices to make documents for my newborn daughter.. Nobody ever told me “hey, there’s no visa here”.. So obviously I thought it was ok not to renew it since it was always renewed according to a business that now no longer exists.. I think I have room to talk to the authorities. Money is not a problem, I can pay up to 10,000 fine for both years I stayed irregularly. All I need from them is to set me regular so that I can start to work officially again. Ever met a similar case to mine?

  74. 74|Daniel says:

    Hehehehe.. Reading all these posts I see that the main concerne of most of people is not being able to go back to their countries.. Mine is the opposite : not being able to stay :))

  75. 75|last-Don says:

    Hi everyone, is there anyone who knows anyone who can extend an F visa for one year multiple entry for a cameroonian passport .. if so , how much and how long does it take for the process…
    2- where can i get a Hong kong visa to enter HK. since cameroonians need an entry visa. I live in shenzhen , please let me know if any of these services are available .

  76. 76|Laoban says:

    I admire you all guys. I wish I had your situations of 10days, 1month, 1year, etc. Mine expired since 2005. I have tried all exit points and proposed as much as 25,000RMB without success. I don’t know if I can ever go home to my country again. I have heard that there is an exit point in Inner Mongolia that can easily be negotiated. Someone else told me there is someone in Fujian who smuggles people out.

  77. 77|God-father says:

    hey laoban..no need to go to inner mongolia… send me an e-mail and i`ll tell you how to get you expired visa don and u will be given ten days to leave and go home,… to come back in , i`ll see to it as well. my email is dreamjobscn@gmail.com

    in 3 days , you`ll get your 10 days…
    goodluck

  78. 78|julie says:

    hi,
    I am on a student visa(note i have been working on an x visa in the same school that i study chinese), yesterday, i went to the PSB to get a zero entry visa to buy more time but they would not agree, they said i must exit,because my visa expires today. My company has been working on getting me a Z visa, and the expert office says we must wait for yet another one month before i get the certificate. i have been denied a zero entry, and i still don’t want to go home, what should i do??..I am really confused and worried.

  79. 79|Irish says:

    Hi evreryone!

    Good day to all of you!
    I just want to know if we are going to pay a fine/penalty for our baby not having a RESIDENT PERMIT? He was born here in China, Harbin actually? and if were going to pay the penalty, how much do we need to pay? it’s been 2 years now. He doesn’t have a passport yet. My husband is Canadian and I’m from Philippines and were both on working visa. We moved here in Beijing last year.

    Can somebody help me?
    Thanks!

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