Living in China With Expired Visas
Having an expired visa in China is a no-no. If you live in China, you are probably already pretty aware of this. Let’s take a look at what you need a visa to do in China:
What You Need a Visa to do in China
- Stay in a guest house / motel / hotel (the more expensive the place, the more likely they will check for a valid visa – mid range hotels and up always check, guest houses in tourist cities rarely if ever check)
- Enter or leave China (kind of obvious one, no?)
- Rent an apartment
- Survive random spot inspections at your place of abode or (sometimes) on the street
So basically, unless you are adept at running from China’s police and living on the streets / in the wild, it’s a pretty good idea to keep your visa status up to date in China.
If you want to try and live without one, let me know how it turns out for you.
What the Chinese Government Can do to You if Your Visa is Expired
Legally, the Chinese government can fine you 500 RMB a day up to a maximum 5000 RMB, and can throw you in jail for up to 30 days if you get caught with an expired visa.
But you should be more worried about what could happen – like locking you up and throwing away the keys. Not that it’s likely, but it’s hard to trust the cops anywhere in the world, especially when you are a foreigner. So…
Be safe and keep your China visa up to date
This warning inspired by an article in today’s Wall Street Journal, which says that police are cracking down on undocumented / expired visa carrying foreigners in Beijing in preparation for the Olympics.
China’s regulations are very spasmodic. So there are always ways of getting away with breaking the laws in China. A lot of foreigner in Shanghai work and live illegal, bunch of unregistered companies start business and hire people without pay taxes and insurance.
i am in china, with my visa expired and living the wild life, now i am trying to back to my country but… i dont know how. i’ve been here 8 months and my visa expired 7 months ago…
so also i got a lot of troubles with the psb and police local but maybe i am a lucky guy because i always ran away without show my passport to they.
any suggestion.. of course i dont have the money for pay the fine (5000rmb i think so).. wish me luck.. see you. Jay.
Hi Jay,
I don’t know what to tell you. If you have enough money to buy a plane ticket home, you might be able to get through customs with just a warning. But that’s a big maybe.
You probably need to save up or get access to enough money to both pay the fine and fly back home. Fortunately, it seems like the maximum fine is capped. So if you can keep avoiding the police and save up some money, you could get home okay.
Good luck.
now i am in the border line, i tryed to across by the mountains but there are a lot of security. after that i tryed to go out the country but first i need to paid the fine 5000 rmb and i can go…. but i dont have the money so, the police told me that i go back when i get the money, they dont care nothing and leave me go, so easy, so… maybe i need to find a job. crazy laws… i am sorry for my write but i speak spanish not english. i hope you can understand. thanks for the suggestion.. chao
i submitted my passport for visa renewal before it expired. the agent confirm that he can renew the visa without problem and ask for huge amount of money. but 3 months later i still don’t have my passport back with the new visa. i don’t want to stay without visa so i want to go back to my home country but cannot leave without my passport. what do you think should i do?
Hi Jo – That’s a hard situation to be in. Sounds like you got ripped off. You need to file a police report for a lost passport with your local police office, take that along with proof of identity (birth certificate and any other IDs you can get sent from home) to your local consulate to apply for a new passport.
Anyone who takes money upfront for visa services is doubly likely to rip you off, unless you are turning it in at a large visa services office that’s an obvious company.
HI ,
My multiple entry china visa for 6 months , expired yesterday 12nd march , and today is 13 already
how can i proceed ? just past 1 day ,
but i need to stay in china for more couple of days maximum more 2 or 3 days ,
it was my mistake accidentaly … i just forgot …
i have been applied before for one multiple entry and i dont have any restriction in china
can u help me ?
i got my passport back but without the new visa. i want to go back to my home country with an expired visa. what do you suggest should i do? can i go straight to the airport with ticket and expired visa and pay the penalty at customs at the airport?
Jo and Kim – That seems like it would be the best option – pay the penalty at customs. It doesn’t seem like you can renew an f visa from within China if your visa is already expired. Good luck.
hi there!
is it possible to renew my L visa even if I renewd it already for 3 times? can i change it to F visa? by the way, i’m holding a philippine passport.
i want to stay longer here but just worried about the visa systema nd the freaking fees.
i hope you can help me.
Hi Janz,
How did you renew your L visa 3 times? Do you mean you renewed it 3 times without leaving China? That’s quite an accomplishment. Of course, I don’t know the regulations for philippine passports.
Changing it to an F visa may be possible in Hong Kong – changing it in China usually requires your last visa to have been obtained outside of the country, and with the Olympics coming up it looks like the situation has taken a huge turn for the worse.
Visa processors everywhere have been telling me they can’t help me. Come June I’ll find out better, but the situation doesn’t look good.
hello,
i lost my passport and had to report to the police .a police report was issued to me and now i have to thinks of going back to my country.i intend buying an airticket then summit my id,police report ,and plane ticket to the police burea.your advice is highly needed.
Hi Tony,
You need to go to your consulate within China and apply for a new passport – in order to do so you’ll need sufficient proof of your identity – probably a birth certificate and any other forms of id you can get your hand on. Your consulate can let you know what you will need, they generally require a police report for your stolen passport if it was stolen. That’s all I can tell you, good luck.
hi everyone! just to update and it might be of help. i bought a ticket and went straight to airport but was not allowed to exit customs at the airport. i was advised that only expired visa of less than 2 months can pay penalty at the airport customs office and leave. so i had to go to immigration office and arrange for an exit visa. so if your visa is expired for more than 2 months, don’t go straight to the airport.
Jo – thanks for the update. Please let us know what kind of procedure and fee you had to pay at the immigration office if you get a chance (and what nationality you are)
my visa has been expired now since september 2006 as my passport was taken by a chinese visa agent promising to get me an F visa. this happened after i was given a 10 days visa to leave the country ..he assured me he could do it and then disappeared with my money and passport..i got a police report and then later had a new passport. I~m a holder of a cameroonian passport. since then i have never been able to have a visa. 2 expired 10 days visa in a roll….please if you have ever seen such a situation, help me out..how can i go about this . i really want to leave this country , they can`t allow me go, even with the 500 penalty i took to the psb … they sent my passport back to me. this was done through my Guanxi.
I have a resident permit visa that I received through my former employer(it expires in July). I no longer work for that employer and I never gave them my passport to cancel it. Im aware that my employer could still have cancelled it even without having it in its posession. So right now I have no ideal whether or not my visa is valid. Id like to return to the U.S in May and I dont want to have any problems. Any suggestions on what I should do?
AJ – I’m sorry I don’t know how to help you. Maybe someone else could give some advice. Good luck.
Hi Neffy – You could contact your employer before you head out to check if they canceled it, just to make sure you don’t get stuck in immigration and unable to get on your flight.
The other option is to make sure you have 5000 RMB on hand just in case…
my visa expired on the 8th of April and i have been teaching in a school.Now the police are after me and i want to go home before getting caught. What do you think i should do.
can it be possible for me to go home,my visa expired on the 9th of April and i have been teaching in a school,but the police are asking for my passport now.what can i do to go home
You’re going to have to cough up the fine before you can go home – I’m sorry I can’t really help you with your situation. You might be able to get a 30 day exit visa by going to immigration after you pay the 5000 RMB fine.
I lost my passport in the process of extending visa on it.First it expired and thereafter it happen that I had they have been taken to another country whithout my awareness.Now am in China without passport leave alone valid visaand I haven’t done any job it wss my first time in China and my first visa.
What is espected of me since now I can’t manage even yto pay leave alone airticket but neither fine nor visa extension coz even what I had was taken together with my passport while making visa extension?
John – Umm… I don’t know what to tell you. You need to get a police report from a Chinese police office that says your passport was stolen, apply for a new passport at your country’s consulate with the appropriate documents (birth certificate, other forms of id, etc), and then apply for an exit visa to leave China.
Good luck.
my sister her friend and my cousin have an expired visa they are staying here for almost 2mo.s in china without visa they want to go home but they are scared of what the government will do to them can someone ask me what will happen if they brought themsleves to the imigration and my sister is only 18yrs old thats why im so very worried about the consequences.are they safe if they surrendered
Hi Karen,
My guess is if they have the 5000 RMB fee (each) and means to afford passage out of China back home that they will be okay.
If not, try and help them get that.
do you mean if they have money they can go back home where they must go immigration or in our embassy.are they be in jailed if they surrender themselves,and if they surrender on the immgration are they safe there inside.tnx for answering
hi karen,
let me share my cousins experience with you. she had a 4 months expired visa and we went straight to the airport with the intension of paying the rmb5000 fine at the airport immigration. but she was not allowed to leave, she need to get an exit visa first. this is how things work:
1/ first went to the foreign affairs office and told them that she has an expired visa and wants to go home. but of course immigration would ask what you do in china, do you know that your visa is expired and why did you let it get expired. you have to answer this questions but make sure that you answer them safely. meaning don’t get caught that you are working in shanghai without working visa. then they will make a copy of ur passport and visa, and the pink slip (temporary residence slip). they will get ur contact details.
2/ you wait for the call from the police and you present yourself. there you got to be ask the same question then they will ask you to sign a paper. then you will be given a slip of paper to present to the bank for payment and paper to present to foreign affairs when you apply for exit visa.
3/ you go to the bank to pay the fine of rmb5000.
4/ then go to foreign affairs office to apply for exit visa. you’ll be given 10 days to exit.
i don’t know if it’s the same with all expired visa but this how my cousin got out of china last month.
good luck to your friends.
dear as i was going to hkg and that time hkg security don’t allow me to enter and that same day my visa get expired and i gave my passport to one agent to make for 1 year but now already 3 month and can’t get passport as well so i am with him and he is doing something and he is helping me but he don’t know also what to do as the person whom he give passport is run away so can u please suggest what to do and i don’t have much money either..
but the big problem is they dont have the temporary residence because they was fooled by a chinese agent hu promised them to make their visa and keep their passport for almost 1 month..
then they have to go to local police station and apply for temporary residence permit. and they tell the police that they need this to apply an exit visa. but 1st they go to foreign affairs, then local police station. if you have chinese friend who can help you out talking with the police and explaining things, better ask for assistance.
they dont have house to live in they just skip en skip to other house.how bout if he just surrender to the airport and go to the imigration there bcoz he wants to surrender do you think its good because we’re tottaly indespair on how he can go back home.
we already go immigration psb here in beijing but they want to see a temporary residenec which is they really dont have
Well my visa just expired the 13 of JUNE, I tought it was the 18. lol my error. I wanna stay here I don’t wanna go anywhere, but I want a valid visa. Last time I went to hongkong and there were bunch of people making visa, I paid one 80US and he took my password and came back after 1 hour with a 3 month visa. Now I will go do the same again, but will I be able to get to hong kong to do the same? I have no intention of leaving, just renewing my visa.
Thanks For The Help
Um… getting a visa in Hong Kong has become extremely difficult, if not impossible. Good luck, but don’t plan on definitely being able to get the visa. Have a backup plan, since if they reject you you’ll be stuck in Hong Kong. Considering the time constraints you face, though, you’ll probably just need to wing it.
Wing it? So what do you mean I have to do?
I can’t give a full rundown of the issues, so check out this page which has a lot more info:
Update on China Visa Situation
Anyone can help me….I gave birth in China and I don’t know what to do. I am an asian and alone here. I am really in so much trouble for my visa got expired the day I gave birth. The doctor told me she can extend my visa but needs passport of my husband..but am not married and I am alone here. I runaway from my country and tried to start a life here because I am not fully aware of the visa policies here. Now that my baby is 8mos old I want to know how I can get a passport for my baby or is it possible that my baby and I can stay here for good.
its 10 months expired already….what should I do? I want to stay here and dont want to go back home…
Hi Meeh,
I have no idea about what you need to do – perhaps others have some information that could help you?
Hi meeh, after a long day of talking to fifty hundred tousand people today for my own case of visa that expired the 13 of june..I am canadian by the way. Well since me it’s only a few day I will just need to pay a fine. But the thing is a gamble when I will cross back to Hong Kong they could refuse me back an entry here for X reason. So I contacted my embassy. I will go pay a fine here localy in Shenzhen and they will extend my visa for a few day’s giving me enought time to cross back to hong kong, go husle a visa down there (like 50-60us) and come back to beautifl CHINA. Well the immigration law is really hard for people that smugled in. I don’t wanna scare you or antyhing but if you go report yourself they will arrest you and lock you down. You it’s not a couple day’s its month so you were aware of what your were doing smugleling in here. My best advice is to find you civil lawyer, or an immigration concelor…explain them the thing…play it as a victim…but it’s hard your kid have 8 month now…give me your background. How you got here. How long was your first visa. Give me more detail. Tomorow when I go meet them I will ask them thoose question. China is lovely but they are like any country, you don’t respect the rules or either law you get punished. And since now olympics are coming they are really really hard of the visa status.
Sincerely Yours Moe
Hello moe,
I’ve been invited by my uncle to stay here. I got L visa thrice and exited in Macau and again managed to extend L visa twice….I wanted to go home but it was the doctors doesnt want me to go back home….so the a day before my visa wil expire I went to doctor to give me a certificate that I can travel….but the doctor refused and instead gave me certificate to extend my visa…my friend took my passport to shanghai but shanghai embassy said we must take it to immigration near my hospital….but when my friend came back next day I had bleeding so i didnt managed to process my documents…after 3 days immigration called me and told me its has no problem i just need to submit them the birth certificate of my baby but i had problem with hospital because they want the father’s passport. The father wasn’t here with me and explained them already but language problem is really the main problem that caused me trouble….i do have a close friend with me and they taught it was my husband but of course he aint my husband so how will he stand as the father of my child….
and i am a ceasarian and my baby stayed in incubator for 3 weeks…. baby was premature…doctor dont want me to travel because my pregnancy is very dangerous….
I didnt work here so i dont think i abide their law it was them who doesnt want me to go….so what should I do….I am living with my baby and I am taking care of him so i think they wont think that i worked here at all…I still have enough savings for us to survive …
the reason why I want to fix this is that if ever given a chance to work here of course I would love to work legally……
so i want to know if its possible my baby can help me to be citizen here…..
thanks for the help…
my uncle wasn’t here anymore…after 2 months staying here he got transfered so I just thought of finishing my visa which is still a month that time and planning to go back home….and that whats happened….
Residence Visa
(D-visa)
Requirements:
1. One completely filled out Visa Application Form for the P.R. China (Q-2007) .no item should be empty or alterd.
2. One recently taken 2X2 in. photo showing entire face and without a hat on. Please affix the photo to the application form.
3. Original passport with at least 2 blank visa pages and valid for at least 6 months beyond the date of application.
4. A permanent residence confirmation form is required. You or your designated relatives in China may obtain this form from the exit-and-entry department of the municipal or county public security bureau where you intend to reside.
5. An applicant born in China who is applying for a Chinese visa with his or her new foreign passport is required to submit his or her Chinese passport or last foreign passport.
6. A child of Chinese descent and born in a foreign country who applies for a Chinese visa for the first time is required to submit his or her Birth Certificate and foreign passport or foreign permanent resident permit (e.g. Green Card) of one of his or her parents.
7.Non-US passport bearers shall provide documents that entitle them to reside or work for an extended period of time in the US.
8. former chinese visas ( if you have any ).
9. other files consuls request .
moe email me….thanks!
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Well guess where I am in Hong Kong he he. I made it there with no fine or anything. My visa expired the 13 of June; it took me 6 days to figure out how the hell I will be able to renew it. Let me share with you my experience so you can help our fellow Canadian. Firstable they asked me to go to the bureau of exit of Shenzhen…I went there took a number waited a few hours then someone brought me in a room and told me you have to go to the police station or somewhere like that (like a big Chinese office for visa). An inspector came and saw me, he told me like a nice man you can go to Hong Kong directly they will just give you a warning and you can exit china. I went to Hong Kong (no hotel reservation, no return flight, nothing…like a soldier he he) I filled the exit card, no flight number nothing…just my name my date of birth and my passport number. Then the agent told me wait. Another agent came; they brought me unto a room. I waited 15 minute, a nice lady comes with a paper telling me to sign it’s just a warning and say you are now free to go to Hong Kong and apply for a new visa. I also asked her about the RED stamp the famous 10 day’s exit stamp that they give you in Shenzhen to exit china (it’s a flag, when you have that stamp u cannot re apply for a visa within china). So avoid telling people to go there that is my best suggestion. That is only good for people who there visa was expired less then 10 day’s I also find a nice lady that will charge me 750 us Hong Kong dollar to fix my visa. I am currently in a hotel tomorrow I will meet here; I have to wait till Monday since there is no more SAME DAY VISA. I will keep you posted over the rest!
meeh, email me I be more then happy to try to help you personaly when I get back to Shenzhe, I have a translator with me 24/7. So I can go with you around and get this whole mess fixed. Well I will try…I am ain’t superman, but I know how to work around it. Well I guess let’s see if Monday I will be back in shenzhen hehe.
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Hi everybody…i’m Joe living in china shenzhen to be precise…..can i exit china with a 14 day expired visa?…….i don’t have any money to pay as a penalty to the customs…..i have my ticke ready to depart china…..i need your advice?…….
Joe tell me what passport you have?
what should i do i,ve lost my passport but my visa expired october 7 2008 i want to go back to my country what are the best thing to do?
Jack,
Hmm… you need to file a report with your local PSB / 派出所. If you have a photocopy of the visa and passport, that would be the most helpful. Then you’ll need to go to your consulate to apply for a new passport, likely having to bring two major forms of ID plus the report for the stolen passport (actually, you may just need the stolen passport report to get the exit visa from China, not to apply for your passport… but either way you will eventually need it).
Good luck. Maybe someone else can provide better advice.
What passport are holding Jack? And Btw Moe is back In China with a 30 day’s visa 2 entry….My hat off to my own self lol
Thanks Moe
Hi,ESK
i have a resident permit and it expired on June 19th,2008.I am prepared to go home to Africa.i wanted to know where to go first since i will be getting myself a ticket home.Where should i go at the airport.Please advice me on this and how i should go about it.I am also aware i will be paying penalty.
Wow, I thought I am the only one who will try to stay with an expired visa here! hehe
I am in Beijing and my L visa expires the 7 August 2008. Yeah, a day before the great Olympics. Anyone in same situation want to meet for a drink in Dongsi Hutong and talk about this and maybe find together a solution?.
adventurefun@live.de Rut from Barcelona
I have been married to a Chinese citizen for 3 years, i have been legally employes for 3 years as an English teacher. The PSB refused to renew or issue any visa or extension to me. My residence permit expires on Sept 15, I have new employment contract and expecting for a baby soon. employer says NO PROBLEM, wait, Visa office refused my visa today. The clock is ticking, I don’t want to break the law, i have two weeks to go, leave or wait and trust. What would you do if you were in my place?
Hi Arthur – your employer should be handling this, it seems – you say the PSB won’t give you any visa, even a visiting family L visa? If they can’t help you with this, you could consider as a last resort going to your wife’s hukou location and applying for a family L visa there, but of course you can’t work with such a visa.
Not sure what to tell you, if your employer is on the up and up and you meet the basic requirements you shouldn’t have a problem getting a visa.
hi guys i need your help i have expired visa and i want to go home but am afraid the police will arrest me,if not and i pay the 5000 and they give me 10days to exit,can i use the same passport to go and apply for another visa in home country to come to china? or if they use the red stanp on my passport i cant use? need help
some one now agent who renew expire visa? help
hey soja, can you let me know which country `s passport you are holding?
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for your advice but the weird thing is that at the PSB they told me that they do not issue any visa of any kind to anyone! They have just stopped processing visa applications for an indefinite period.
The office, which used to be rather crowded, is open one or two hours a day and there is a sign on the window which says that owing to some computer problems they have stopped visa application procedures! No other explanation. What can I do? Please help me!
Even L visa should be processed by the same office.
AJ AM FROM GHANA
Hi Arthur – It seems like your only options are:
1) Try your wife’s hometown PSB (where she has her Hukou) to apply for a family L visa
2) Get ready to leave China
I can’t give you very good advice on this – but can say the place you’re most likely to be able to get a visa to China is from your own country, but that is very expensive. Good luck.
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My visa was approved at yangzhou PSB,but at gulin PSB it was turned down by an officer without looking at the passport simply because am a nigeria.What can l do?l have 3chinese visas on my passport.An am representing an america firm that want to set up in china here.Am tired of dorging for the police.
i have applyed for visa in hong kong but they rejected my passport with a red stamp in the last page of my passport can someone tell me what’s mean this red stamp,one more thing i have never expired my visa in china and never have a problem there with police and i was living there more than four years.
Hi my RP expirded for 15 days so i go to the visa office pay a 2500 rmb fine (in beijing) but they did nothing to my passport no stamp no paper stuck in it nothing has any one else been through this prosses before how does it work (step by step?) i want to go to hong kong for a L visa.
i m in china from last one and half years without a visa ,now i want to go back to my country. but i don’t know how?please anybody tell me what i can do now ?plzzzzzzzzzzzz tell me something
my visa expired 11 days ago, but i didin’t notice until yesterday. i went to the pbs, but they insisted on me paying 5000 yuan and it’s way outta what i could afford. is there any way i could get outta being fined?
my visa has been expired now since september 2006 as my passport was taken by a chinese visa agent promising to get me an F visa. this happened after i was given a 10 days visa to leave the country ..he assured me he could do it and then disappeared with my money and passport..i got a police report and then later had a new passport. I~m a holder of a cameroonian passport. since then i have never been able to have a visa. 2 expired 10 days visa in a roll….please if you have ever seen such a situation, help me out..how can i go about this . i really want to leave this country , they can`t allow me go, even with the 500 penalty i took to the psb … they sent my passport back to me
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hello! i am in guangzhou china. i lost my passport since 2007. i have the police report with me but i didnt i didnt report it to philippine consulate. since then, because i dont have money that time i just keep silent and be moving without papers. but now i really want to fix my papers. is it possible to fix it here in china? i heard that consulate in guangzhou are not issueing new passport,.. so which city i can ask help for it? and thet say that if i want to surrender, even though i pay the 5000 they will still put me in jail. im very afraid. please, somebody give me advice. i really want to fix everything. thanks.
Hi guys, I live in Shanghai non-stop since 2001 and I came in with a business visa, which I kept extending until 2007. I got married to a chinese girl in 2006 then the company closed in 2007 and I stayed until now without renewing visa. I thought it was ok since I married a chinese girl and I was wrong.. I got a high paid job opportunity but they are waiting for me to get regular with the visa/residence permit. I hope the authorities will go easy on me considering I have wife and a baby now.. Being here since 2001 nonstop is something considerable and I hope they will not kick me out of china
I forgot to add, I never had in my mind living in the shadow or hiding from the police or anything, I was quite misslead by some people who were probably trying to hurt me, they told me “it’s no problem, once you have marriage certificate that exempt you from renwwing visa”.. I was a fool to believe them without even checking. But the thing is, since the company closed I just worked temporary jobs for my father and my passport was never checked for visa, I even used it in public offices to make documents for my newborn daughter.. Nobody ever told me “hey, there’s no visa here”.. So obviously I thought it was ok not to renew it since it was always renewed according to a business that now no longer exists.. I think I have room to talk to the authorities. Money is not a problem, I can pay up to 10,000 fine for both years I stayed irregularly. All I need from them is to set me regular so that I can start to work officially again. Ever met a similar case to mine?
Hehehehe.. Reading all these posts I see that the main concerne of most of people is not being able to go back to their countries.. Mine is the opposite : not being able to stay
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Hi everyone, is there anyone who knows anyone who can extend an F visa for one year multiple entry for a cameroonian passport .. if so , how much and how long does it take for the process…
2- where can i get a Hong kong visa to enter HK. since cameroonians need an entry visa. I live in shenzhen , please let me know if any of these services are available .
I admire you all guys. I wish I had your situations of 10days, 1month, 1year, etc. Mine expired since 2005. I have tried all exit points and proposed as much as 25,000RMB without success. I don’t know if I can ever go home to my country again. I have heard that there is an exit point in Inner Mongolia that can easily be negotiated. Someone else told me there is someone in Fujian who smuggles people out.
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hi,
I am on a student visa(note i have been working on an x visa in the same school that i study chinese), yesterday, i went to the PSB to get a zero entry visa to buy more time but they would not agree, they said i must exit,because my visa expires today. My company has been working on getting me a Z visa, and the expert office says we must wait for yet another one month before i get the certificate. i have been denied a zero entry, and i still don’t want to go home, what should i do??..I am really confused and worried.
Hi evreryone!
Good day to all of you!
I just want to know if we are going to pay a fine/penalty for our baby not having a RESIDENT PERMIT? He was born here in China, Harbin actually? and if were going to pay the penalty, how much do we need to pay? it’s been 2 years now. He doesn’t have a passport yet. My husband is Canadian and I’m from Philippines and were both on working visa. We moved here in Beijing last year.
Can somebody help me?
Thanks!
Hi there!
I live in Beijing and am applying to renew my F visa, I am required to go back to home country (Australia). My visa expires on Friday 17 July and I have a plane ticket scheduled on the SAME date in the afternoon 3:30pm. So I am concerned will I be stopped and required to pay a fine AT the airport? I have read that if your visa expires less than 10days you will be issued a warning but no fine, is this true for Beijing? Also when I leave Beijing I stop over at Shanghai, there will I encounter double the trouble or pay twice? Any advice or help appreciated.
Thankyou!
My husband of 13 years left me for a local chinese girl while I was pregnant with our baby. He took all of our money and left me to survive on my own and to provide for our baby on my own with no financial help. My passport was stolen in 2007 which I got a new one, but I never got a new visa so I have been without one since(nearly 2 years now). I live with somone now who pays all of mine and my baby’s bills and will be getting a passport for her next month. My baby’s father refuses to help with getting her a passport or acknowledging her birth. we are both US citizens and I am very worried that I will be thrown in jail or never allowed to leave even though I NOW have a home here and have job opportunity but must get my papers in order. What will become of my baby and myself because of all of this. Unfortunatel, money was an issue since my husband left me and he also still resides here , but he has made it impossible for me to get in contact with him.
what do i need to do.
hi
I really need so help or at least advice,
I had a 1 year student visa when i was in zhuhai, but i dropped out and when i was moving i happened to lose my passport, so i apply for another my visa was already expired for 2 days then , but when i went to the foreign affairs office they told me that they couldnt give me a temp visa without a passport. so i would have to wait for a new one then come back to apply for a visa. however so complications went wrong in my application for a new visa which i sent to beijing which made extended my new passport being done up to almost 3 months, when i got my passport back i didnt know what to do and i’m scared to go to the police because i dont want to go to jail, my visa has now been expired for up to 7months now,
i dont know where to start also i dont have the money right now but i can get in another month .
what should i do? can someone give me a step to step procedure?
will i have to go to jail?
or does anyone know any agents who could do this for me ?
should i go to the police now or wait until i have enough money to pay the fine? how much will the fine be for 7 months? do i have to leave the country or can i apply for a new visa here in china? please someone help i’m extremely worried and i have no idea where to start.
or please contact me if you have advice or can help me
all.here4the.counting@gmail.com or
period_89@hotmail.com
I have lived in china with an expired L visa for the last 2years without renewing it and now i need to renew it either continue staying in china or go back to my motherland.Any advice? I will appreciate you guys.
Looking forward to read from you.
I have a 12 month multientry visa, 60 days. Can I get an exit stamp without leaving the country. I dont mind paying I just dont want to fly to HK, or Seoul
Maybe you can help. I am currently in Yantai, Shandong Province on a business visa, my visa expires on the 8th December and my flight leaves China (first fly to BEijing) on the 10th of December. They will not issue me with another visa, so will I be able to let the visa expire and leave on the 10th, or is there a process to this. At the Public Security Burea here, no one speaks English.
I have read online that you can stay 10 days without having to pay a fine, but need a letter from the Public Security Burea. And on another website, it says I will have a lot of trouble at the airport and will have to pay a fine. I am not sure.
Can you advise in anyway? Thank you!!
somebody help me please i overstayed my visa since nov.2007i want to go home but im scared with the police that they will throw me in jail even u paid the penalty.
Caro, don’t risk it. Just take a train. If no train, take a bus to the nearest train station. You have time. Go.
Hi everyone! I came to china on x visa, and 12 months before I had lost my passport and I got my new passport 1 month after my lost but I didnt go to PSB to get my new residence permit. The residence permit on my former passport will be expired after 10 months from now. So can the PSB give me the old residence permit on my new passport or will they fined me for a new residence permit? Extremely needed help from you guys..
Hi everyone! I came to china on x visa, and 12 months before I had lost my passport and I got my new passport 1 month after my lost but I didnt went to PSB to get my new residence permit. The residence permit on my former passport will be expired after 10 months from now. So can the PSB give me the old residence permit on my new passport or will they fined me for a new residence permit? Extremely needed help from you guys..
hi
I am holder of british passport my visa expired about 12 months ago, I don’t know what to do, I lost it in feb, after I was submitted in hospital for personal reasons “breakdown”. I don’t have 5000 right now , where should I go or ask for advice , will I have to go to jail? or get deported? How can I avoid this???? please I need some help or advice, I’m living in shenzhen right now. ????? worried out my mind???
Hi,
Seem to have similar problem as many other people. I’m a us citizen living in Shanghai for 2 hrs with expired visa. Have the money but want to be able to return to china at some point. Is it possible as long as I pay the money and don’t admit to anything illegal. During my time here was working as a teacher and not till now do I have the money to sort things. Any suggestions please!!!
my visa is expired if i go to the airport will i be able to pay the fine at customs? or do i have to go somewhere else to pay it?
If you’re from the UK or US, (or any other country with a halfway decent foreign consular service) and your visa is more than one day over the expiry date, then your first stop should be your own embassy or consulate; get advice from them.
The fine is (or used to be, last time I checked) 500RMB/day to a maximum of 5000RMB. You can get away with being one day over, one time only.
Google [your country] embassy China, to find your nearest consulate.
If you’ve overstayed due to hospitalization (physical injury / illness), get the name and tel number of the hospital, one of the doctors who treated you, and (mobile number of) at least one of the nurses you (hopefully) made friends with there.
That’s assuming (1) you don’t have the paperwork related to your stay in the hospital, and (2) you can’t get it back by going and asking for a copy.
If you’ve been in hospital for mental health reasons, the above advice probably isn’t much use, as renewing your long-expired visa won’t be made easier by putting the gov’t in touch with the hospital, IMHO. (I think the PRC rejects visas on evidence of poor mental health, even if it’s in the past. However, I couldn’t be sure.) I’d concentrate on getting to HK / out of the PRC (ask your consulate) and apply for a new visa from there if you really want to come back.
And people come on! Sort it out!
I overstayed my F-visa from 2007 for two years and was caught in a hotel…was detained for a few weeks and than fined 2000 RMB. I had to fly out to Hong Kong (got issued a 30 days valid external visa) and that was it. Got a new passport in Germany, a few months ago I applied in Bangkok for a new visa, though it was rejected. I know or heard about the 5 years ban after having overstayed the visa for such long. Does anyone has experience in getting proceeded papers for the chinese consulat to be able to reenter China (as tourist)? Any help or experience with that matter would be highly appreciated. Mail to r_kummer@yahoo.fr
Well am from the states and have been in China for almost three months now.i have a L visa which expired on 30 Dec and was renewed but it again expired on 20 Jan. 2011,My question is, my company is filing for my z visa which is almost done since i now have the Alien Working License which was issued on FEB 22 2011 and waiting for the Visa notice to be issued,my company is willing to pay the fine of 5000RMB,yet i just want to find out if i will be given any stamp that wouldn’t allow me re-apply from my home country since i have to go back home and apply for the z visa with the documents acquired.I really what to know what you guys think.
Best regards,
Selina
good day.i just want to ask if i can renew or extend my f visa without leaving mainland? what are the requirements? where will I go to extend my visa?
and 2nd my question i got 1 year f visa.is it true that 1 yr f visa there’s a 2 months extension before the expire date? the expire of my visa on april so if theres a extension so up to june i can use that visa?thank you
I am still in China and I have overstayed my visa since 2007. I’m a US Citizen. It was a 30day visa. I applied for an extension back in 2007 and they said no then, so I just stayed. My GF and I have been together since then (5 years). We just wanna get married and start a life here. I speak fluent Chinese and have my girlfriends family has been supporting us.
I really need some help!
to desprite now: you will have to go to the police station and they will give you instructions on what you will need to do. you might just get a fine and or spend sometime in jail and they will make you leave the country and apply for a new visa. it will depend on what the police station says. but you will not be able to get married with out taking care of it.
applying for a new visa can be a problem
I’m from the US and I’ve been in China with a F visa. My visa is about to expire and I’ve heard that when I reapply back home I need to wait for 3 weeks before returning to China. I love the idea of having a 3 week break but do I really need to leave China for that long before being allowed to return. Thanks
I have here in Guangzhou in my L visa and from Nepal,my visa got expired in 26 may
and my
tickets was in 27 may and today is saturday and sunday and i m really worried now 。plz suggest me what should I do.what should I do and where should I go.
Hey I want to ask if anybody knows how to fix a visa problem? I have not reached 1 year expired yet and I’m looking for a way to fix this. I have responsibilities here and would like to come back (not be banned for life). I was cheated by a guy whom I taught english in his private school. He doesnt have a location, but he now runs a club and for proof I have his phone number still on my phone and all the paperwork I’ve written for him saved on my USB. He never paid me according to the work I did and always said he’d get me a visa which he never did. I quit and moved to a different person that had the means of helping by contacting an American bar owner to provide me a part time job and a work visa. Well, the end of the week calls me back says the guy is in a lawsuit with his landlord and losing his business, but I can help this lady paint apartments and she can offer me dinners in exchange for my help. Now she wants to hire me as a full time employee, but cant because of my visa situation and I’m asking if there is anyway to fix this. I hear people say “get married” or “report a stolen passport”. Some say visa agents can fix, but I feel they’d just as easy hand me over to immigration and pocket all the money I pay them. I never smoke, I rarely drink, I dont drive, I dont have a full time job (but I have one lined up whenever I fix my situation).
lionel.carver2@gmail.com
Sonia. Just go to immigration or PSB in Guangzhou and take 5000 RMB with you as some story why you overstayed your visa. 5000 is maximum, normally 500 per day, depending on whether the officer @likes@ your face or not. 5k is the maximum. Should not be big hazzle and done fast. If you dont have the money then do not go.
hi, i am from Nepal. I had X visa from 2004 to Dem 2008, when i graduated, i got an F visa for 30 days, but i didn’t want to leave China. On the last day of my F visa, i came to Shanghai and got L visa for 10 days. But again i didn have enough money to buy ticket to leave, so my visa was expired on 26, April, 2009. Now i am still in China, but due to visa problem, i am helpless. i have a Chinese girlfriend, whom i have stayed for 7 years and who is ready to get married to me. Can we register our marriage with this expired visa? Thanks a lot. Charles
hi everyone
i have been in china here for 7 months on a student visa, my Chinese girlfriend is insisting that we get married very soon, i am very worried because i don’t know if (with X visa) or a student can get married,if this is possible i will be happy please help me i am on fire
hi, i have a problem.. my visa expired on sept 30th 2011, and i cant renew my visa cause i’ve just recently transferred to another college and my withdrawal paper from the old college hasn’t been approved yet, it needed more time.. and on this sept 26th i’ll be going to hongkong and will be back on the 30th(the same day as my visa expiration date)to beijing. Do you think they’ll let me enter the beijing in this case? what should i do? i’m really scared that they won’t allow me in……
I was xpired for almost a year. I was caught at home due to a storm. I got 8 days in jail, the embassy told my family they NEED to western union money to me to get home, I got a police escort direct to the airplane gate the night I got out of prison(my exit visa was for 10 days), and before hopping on the plane, they took 13,000 rmb of my money (they claim it was for the plane ticket from Shanghai to LA which is wrong. They also charged me for the fines which they’re not supposed to since I did time. Embassy argued with the officers about it at the Western Union, but they dumped him at the consulate office so I didnt have the embassy at my back after he got me a temp passport). Really I was to go to Iowa, not California. Instead, they send me direct to California and run off with most of my money leavin me with only 450 USD in LA.
Hi,
well I also had a problem with my visa and no idea whats going on. Visa expired on the 30th of AUG, I had an accident on the 23rd. Overstayed the visa by 6 days filed a report with the police and was not fined. Was given a 15 day grace visa and went to HK to renew but was refused because of the overstay…. was on a Z then changed companies and applied for a L which was denied. Now im back in Canada waiting for the Z visa documents to arrive but am worried that i might now get it due to the overstay/refusal
i’m an indian.my X visa got expired before 43 days.when i realized the officials in my university went for winter vacations.can any one help me please..?i have to go bak to my home as my dad is sick..can i book my airticket and go to airport directly and pay 5000 fine…or should i go to entry-exit office to get an exit visa..somebody please help me in this issue..hope for your valuable solutions…thank you…len
I came to China since 2005, and i live and work here in China
with F Visa without any problems. Then on May 2008 I got in love with
a Chinese girl from Guangdong and we got married and we got the
Marrige License on Agu 2009, then after that i got L Family Visa from
Zhaoxing Immegration after very tired trying to get it because of they
are low experiance for applying this kind of visa for Forigners who
got married from Chinese, and they were giving me evry time for 6
Month Visa. and in 21ft of Nov 2009 my wife born our cute son, and now
our son is 2 years old. And in Jul 2010 i went to Extend my Visa as
normal before Expire time and apply with all neccessry documents as
usual, but they day i was coming to collect my passport i supprised
that they gave me Star Visa Valid for 7 days to leave China without
explain to me the reason. As i have my wife and son here in China and
i would like to keep living in this Country so i would like to get
advice what should i do in this siutuation?
Thanks waiting for a good help to keep living with my wife & Son soon
Surury
Hi’ Jeremy,
I need to know this, me and my cousin we are Tanzanian but my cousin has a overstay problem for almost 9 months she want to go back to my country, I know the process and even the payments, but what I was asking is, if they give her 10 days, can she go hongkong with her 10 days, and take some of her things there and take a fright from hongkong to Tanzania? Because Tanzania is visa free to hongkong is it possible? I need help of that please.
HI, i am holding a diplomatic passport with ‘W’ visa,do not know what it means as it is not categorised anywhere.i am studying chinese language but would like to teach english or do an internship on the side.i have a resident permit too. so will i get into trouble for working with a ‘W’ visa. thx for any help, Cindy
I lost my passport in china in two years ago.But now i have got a new passport from home and i want to go home with the new passport.What process can i pass through to get back home?I i have the money to pay the penalty fees(5000) and my plan tick.Thanks for any reply and your guide
sir i want to know aboout your chinese law i was overstay living in some years ago in 2007 police arest me and depote me in pakistan that time i paid my fine5000 and also buy our ticket now i am living in pakistan i need to go back china can i go i am very worried someone says me i cant go back china life time u r black list from china is it true please solve my problem i realy want go back china
Hi…I am in China and my visa has expired because my US passport was taken because of non- payment of child support. I have not got the money to pay it, in order to get back my passport and they are going to deport me if I do not get my passport renewed before a certain date. But without a passport how can I get into the US if they deport me?
hi, i came china last month on 24th and my visa is for 30 days, day after tomorrow i am flying back to my country, it’s one day late, i would like to ask you that do i have to pay fine money if yes, how much? and does immigration put ban on my passport or put ban on re-entry? because i have invitation letter now with me to come again to china. please advise.
Anyone need advice for expired chinese visas you can contact my email. I do charge a small fee, but I have lived expired in Shanghai, I was caught, I couldnt afford the fine, I went to jail, and I didnt get blacklisted (but I did have to go home).
My email: emr48211@gmail.com
I lost my passport in the summer of 2011. My bag with passport in it was stolen at the Lijiang bus station. Looking back it all turned out well, but when you are in the middle of the storm it’s a different story. I wrote about it in my travelblog at http://rpdejavu.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/to-exit-china-1/
Good luck
Ronald
Hello… i need urgent advice? i got arrested last week at my school for working with a bus visa? my school have been trying to talk to the police, i paid my fine yesterday it was 1500rmb? the problem is that they are hesitated to give back my passport after i already paid?the problem is the one copper told me different thing to what the other cop told me the previous day? they said ill be fine i just have to pay the fine and get an z visA but today a different cop told me im going to get a black stamp in my passport wich means im pretty fcked, sorry for my french but im sad, i was on the way to ask my girl to marry me and i need to get help… plzzz help
can any one tell me if you are busted working with bus visa what will happen after you paid the fine? do you get black listed?
@bezie: First, I think I’m not the first one to say I agree. I myself was within a hair width of hooking an opportunity, my first real paying job as the others were full of bs. At the same time, I was rolling over the option of marriage in my head. I must remind ANYONE DO NOT GET MARRIED TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED ON YOUR VISA!! The ONLY exception is if your best friend and/or the person you marry is related to the civil official that will oversee the marriage proceedings.
As for getting blacklisted, it all depends on the decision of the immigration office. Even if you’re not blacklisted, there’s still the possibility customs will turn you away at the border when you attempt to return to China. I am currently considering this in my future travel plans which if I am turned away, I’ll be a duck in the mud. Flying to China is not a cheap feat, nor is living in some of the neighboring countries.
@merlin: the thing is i was going ask her to marry me before all this happend and frankly im not going to ak her anymore for im not sure whats going to happen? Its now 2 weeks since i havent heard from coppers and i have already paid my fine… im not going to bullshit but im scared for what might happen?
Hi’ Jeremy,
I need to know this, me and my cousin we are Tanzanian but my cousin has a overstay problem for almost 11 months she want to go back to my country, I know the process and even the payments, but what I was asking is, if they give her 10 days, can she go hongkong with her 10 days, and take some of her things there and take a fright from hongkong to Tanzania? Because Tanzania is visa free to hongkong is it possible? Lastly may I know those 10th days exit, is it a normal exit visa or blacklisted because she wanted to use the same passport to travel to another country, is it not going to be a problem to her too? I need help of that please
@bezie: I went through the same thing. I wanted to marry regardless of my visa situation. It was my original intent when I went to China, even though the one I planned to marry told me when I arrived that she always thought of me as a friend because she’s a lesbian. I ran to Shanghai not only heartbroken, but in search of opportunity. I didnt pay money to online dating sites for nothing. When you’re heartbroken, you gotta move on somehow.
@Jesca: You may be in bigger trouble than you know. I was around 8 months expired, so I was fine. I was told by a former China visa agent in HK, by a chinese executive with a big company, and by a NY international trader…if you are a year or more expired not only do you pay a fine, but you will go to jail as the police run a criminal investigation to see exactly what caused you to be expired for so long. They believe those under a year expired just made a mistake. They believe those over a year did it on purpose and possibly have something to hide. Also, from my own experience, the 10 day exit visa meant nothing. The day I was released from jail, I had a police escort back to my apartment, told to quickly pack a few things, then we went to immigration to get the exit visa and they booked my flight back to the US (they never told me exactly where I was being shipped in the US). Afterwards, they put me back in the car again along with the chief of immigration, and escorted me to the airport, through security (they dressed in civilian attire for reasons unknown), and they walked me to the departure gate and waited for my flight with me. They only handed me my ticket and passport as I was walking onto the plane and I realized they were sending me to LA instead of my home on the other side of US. They confiscated a good chunk of money which they said was for the ticket, and because of my calm demeanor gave me a warning this time. I had to cover the expense of a hotel in LA and arrange a flight home on my own. I’m not saying the SAME will happen to your cousin, but in China anything is possible. Laws are more like guidelines and it’s up to the authorities to decide how to enforce those laws. Everything can change fast, just like Shanghai can change in 1-2 months.
@ Merlin,
Ooooh!!! But this is bad my cousin just fail to pay school fees coz the father died and nobody to help her, so I decided to wait for sometimes to get money and pay her fine and fright, so now I have money I want to pay the fine, why putting her in jail for what, they have no humanity somebody want to go home why are they putting them in jail again? Is not fair they should change their law, it was even their mistake she came with student visa when she went to apply for resident permit they gave her f visa insteady of x visa resident permit, so after sometime they told her to go outside China and apply x visa again so she went and get x visa on her way coming back China they somebody stole all the money she was having so when enter China she couldn’t manage to pay the all amount of the school fees so she told the school if she can pay half they refused and the money the money was not enough to buy fright ticket home so she was in delimma she didnt what to do than staying, so when I came to China I found her with that problem thats why I decided to help her, am sad for that matter of put my sister in jail, anyway we pray that they will not put her in jail.
Thanks alot for your help Merlin, contact me through this address, cuteirene000@yahoo.com, I need to know more about jail matter.
Byeeeee